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[personal profile] giandujakiss
So annoying.

Look, I'm sure there's a range of reactions mothers might have after coming back from the dead but I find it very hard to buy that Mary wouldn't have wanted to stay with her boys, gotten to know them, learned everything that she missed.  I'd have expected to see her be proud of Sam and Dean's bravery, and mourn over how much they've lost and been hurt - nothing in her portrayal seemed, well, like a mother reacting to sons she loved and lost.  And sure, you could come up with all kinds of extensive characterizations for why a mother would react the way she did, but the show didn't bother and I Am Disappoint.

Date: 2016-10-29 05:52 am (UTC)
serrico: Dean, you know you love our hockey talk. (spncanadiana)
From: [personal profile] serrico
Agreed. That whole final scene, I kept waiting for her to switch--with an obvious moment of realisation and, maybe, reluctance--from calling Sam and Dean "them" to "you". The fact that she never did was I think supposed to signify her disconnect between her memory and her reality, but it came across more as a Plot Mechanics excuse for her departure (which, of course, it was).

Date: 2016-10-29 06:31 am (UTC)
rivkat: Rivka as Wonder Woman (Default)
From: [personal profile] rivkat
I have to say, I have a different reaction, maybe because I've seen way too much "mothers should suck it up and deal no matter what" on my dash. These men--older than she is according to the narrative--don't feel like her sons, and knowing that they are can't necessarily override that. She has a lot to mourn and a lot to learn, and I see why she might've thought that avoiding the painful clashing every day between their expectations and her reality was the best of a bad set of options. Maybe she took the wrong lesson from the MOTW re: trying to hold on to what's gone, but she wouldn't be the first Winchester to do so.

Date: 2016-10-29 06:47 pm (UTC)
loligo: (samndean)
From: [personal profile] loligo
I stopped watching SPN after the second episode of season 6, but I picked it back up again this season for two reasons: (1) I moved to a new office where two of my suite mates are obsessive fans, and I like them and wanted to be able to talk about it with them, and (2) come on, it's a MOM STORY. Dead moms are one of my biggest narrative pet peeves, and when I heard they were resurrecting Mary, I just had to check it out.

I'm okay with it so far. I can easily imagine Mary's current situation being pretty nightmarish for her. There's the whole "plucked from eternal peace and happiness" thing that never goes well for anyone… there's the fact that her husband is gone and her children are unrecognizable adults -- and worst of all, it's finding out about everything that her family has suffered and lost, everything that she specifically wanted to save them from. And Sam and Dean are more or less at peace with it now, so she can't even react honestly to how awful it all is without risking tearing their coping apart.

If I were in her situation, I probably would have caved once I saw how deeply they wanted me to stay, but I would be feeling guilty the whole time about how desperately I wanted to get out of this nightmare. But I don't think it's unrealistic that she would choose to check out for a while to pull herself together in privacy.

(That being said, I had assumed she was going to be in every episode this season, so if it turns out to be a much more limited engagement, I will be annoyed.)

Date: 2016-10-30 03:07 am (UTC)
loligo: Scully with blue glasses (Default)
From: [personal profile] loligo
Yeah, the actual depiction was pretty awkward and abrupt, it's true.

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