giandujakiss: (Evil Men 2)
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...was the Supernatural season premiere actually - good?

Date: 2014-10-11 12:58 pm (UTC)
rivkat: Rivka as Wonder Woman (Default)
From: [personal profile] rivkat
I liked Dean's adolescent rebellion in itself though I consider it a cop-out from a narrative perspective (he can't be really bad, and insulting women doesn't count!); I was extremely relieved that the woman took care of herself and that he wasn't rapey; and I liked Dean's refusal to go after Sam at the end as the real symbol of change. I find it funny that some people treat "I'm a man of my word" as a real thing. No, he's not! At best, it's a coded message to Sam that he's on his own. Which would be cool!

Date: 2014-10-11 01:42 pm (UTC)
tripoli: (cowboys)
From: [personal profile] tripoli
I kept wandering off during the angel parts, but that's been the case for a few seasons anyway. I definitely liked it more than I expected to.

Date: 2014-10-11 07:31 pm (UTC)
tripoli: (maryhalf)
From: [personal profile] tripoli
I was trying to think of what worked for me here that hadn't been recently--because oh man, I'm there with you on the Crowley-fatigue--and I think part of it was that Dean seemed, not happy, but actually kind of happy? I think it's the same reason I enjoy Soulless Sam even more on rewatch--I love Classic Coke Sam, I wanted him to come back and give Dean all the hugs, but I adored the hell out of the Sam who was genuinely, unapologetically cool with who he was. Non-Demon Dean needs to come back someday and give Sam all the hugs, but in the meantime I'm all in favor of with non-angsty-self-hatred Dean.

But those angels, oy. I guess I'm glad for JP and JA getting a break in shooting schedules or whatever, but it is just painful to watch.

Date: 2014-10-11 04:33 pm (UTC)
cathexys: Dean against car (dean3 (by lim))
From: [personal profile] cathexys
I loved Dean and Crowley and liked the woman telling him off. The angels? eh... I love Cas, but he's always been better when he's the straight guy to Dean or Sam...

But yes, I was enjoying it and not ffwding like I've been doing through much of S 8-9

Date: 2014-10-11 08:15 pm (UTC)
killabeez: (Default)
From: [personal profile] killabeez
It's relative, right?

The best part for me was Cole. And "porn guy" convenience store clerk. And Ann Marie, actually. Good guest actors.

Date: 2014-10-12 12:42 am (UTC)
serrico: Dean, you know you love our hockey talk. (spncanadiana)
From: [personal profile] serrico
I liked the episode and thought it was well-done--I wasn't bored at any point, everything was *interesting*--but I varied between side-eying and outright glaring at the demon!Dean softpedal (not that I wanted rapeyness or anything, but actually *demonic* behaviour wouldn't have gone amiss) and almost everything to do with Cas. So... :|?

Date: 2014-10-13 12:27 am (UTC)
serrico: Dean, you know you love our hockey talk. (spncanadiana)
From: [personal profile] serrico
It *was* weird. Similar to how Sam went all black-eyed when killing Lilith, only for that to turn out not to have meant much. It seems that canon demonhood is officially more a sliding scale than an absolute state of being.

Which still strikes me as softpedalling. I know Dean *will* get worse, but now I suspect even that will be carefully mitigated, somehow. *shrug*

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